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Homeschooling Advocate Warns Public Schools are Similar to Hitler Youth

Homeschooling advocate Colin Gunn is unrelenting in his attacks on the public school system in his documentary, “IndoctriNation: Public Schools and the Decline of Christianity in America,” which seeks to end the teaching of evolution and eradicate the “sinful” and secular public school system that he says subjects children to the philosophies of gays, progressives, and abortion rights activists.

In an interview with Voice of Christian Youth America’s Vic Eliason on Crosstalk, Gunn asserts that even the school bus is emblematic of the United States’ “totalitarian education system.”

Gunn alleges that public schools are persecuting Christians and compares public school education in the US to Nazi indoctrination through the Hitler Youth. Eliason echoes Gunn’s abhorrence of the public school system. According to Eliason, the teachers in the public school system who do not uphold and instill Christian ideology are performing “mental molestation,” which deserves to be recognized and punished alongside physical molestation.

Gunn: Draw a parallel between Nazi Germany where you have an authoritarian government that took over the whole nation, partially through the youth movement by co-opting all of the youth movement into the Hitler Youth, and therefore indoctrinating them into the class of this unbelief and this idolatry of the state. And so sadly that’s what we’re seeing very much today and we wonder why, why can’t people understand the abortion issue or these other issues that are political—well it’s because they’ve been indoctrinated. And we really can’t fix any political issue until we fix the public school system, controlling the future of America by controlling the hearts and minds of all the children that are sent there.



Gunn: The nature of the public schools is it allows your child to be subject to those philosophies, whether it is gay rights or the progressives or evolution, if you send your child there be aware that he’s open to all of those views which he wouldn’t be if you kept him home or you put him in a private school.

Eliason: Right now the news is a blare with a man who molested children, and he’s going to prison for the rest of his life. That’s physical molestation. But folks, there is mental molestation going on in the public school, and the people are getting by scot-free. And I’m not criticizing many fine Christian teachers who are trying to do their very best as they are employed in the public schools, but the molestation is a philosophy that is being pushed over all that literally is a molestation of the mind and nobody has a penalty for that.

Gunn does not stop at equating public school education to Nazism. He further claims that the teaching of evolution can contaminate “the culture of a school” and trigger violent incidences such as the Columbine school shooting. Gunn cautions that the “faith of many children are undermined very quickly in the science class,” and that the Bible should be basis of “understanding of real science.”

Gunn: We cover the story of Columbine where a man loses his child to a system that teaches evolution, because as a result of the culture of the school, he lost his own son. So it’s really important to hear the testimonies in our film and be warned.

Eliason: I was talking to [Creationism advocate] Ken Ham about a pastor who was telling his young people, he said there are some people who believe in Creation in six days and some people who believe in the Big Bang Theory, but whatever you like that’s fine, and Ken put it this way, he said, if you can’t be sure about the miraculous power of God to create as the Bible says it, why should a kid believe anything else that’s in that book?

Gunn: Absolutely, I think the faith of many children are undermined very quickly in the science class when they’re taught and the Bible is literally discredited in front of them rather than it being an understanding of real science, which is creation science.

Eliason also alleges that the public school system is being pervaded by homosexuality, which he calls an “abnormal, aberrant lifestyle,” and claims that there is a correspondence between gay awareness and academic mediocrity.

The godless mentality of the issues of lifestyle, we’re talking about homosexuality being diversity, and pressing for diversity training to kids. And of course we’re not talking about hating people, but when you have abnormal, aberrant lifestyles that are being paraded as normality, isn’t there some wonder that parents would be upset?



Some years back, Colin, here in the Milwaukee school system, they had manuals, three ring binders, hard-cover binders, complete with about at least an inch of material that had been put together. And they had hundreds of these binders that were being passed out to the teachers. The binders and the booklets were made by GLSEN, which is the Gay Lesbian Straight Alliance [sic]. They were hoping to provide vital information to teachers as how to infuse the subject of homosexuality in a way that would give more normal handling of it, as they talked about Heather has Two Mommies, or somebody else has two daddy’s. And we’re seeing this type of thing along with the weakness of academic excellence.

Barton: Science Will Eventually Discover That Salt is Not Bad for People Because The Bible Says So

Last year, David Barton began recommending a book called "None Of These Diseases" by S.I. McMillen, which claims that everything we need to know about medicine and health care can be found in the Bible. Barton called the book, which states that promiscuity is the cause of arthritis and insanity, that it is not necessary for women to experience orgasm, and that women who have been punched the face by their husbands just need to learn to submit, "one of the best healthcare books you'll ever read."

Today, on "WallBuilders Live," Barton recommended the book again as he predicted that eventually science will discover that salt is not actually bad for you ... because that is what the Bible says: 

That's one of the life verses I love is Joshua 1:8 that if you do things according to His law, you'll have prosperity, you'll have success. You just do it according to His way. You also get the promise of Exodus 15:26 that says now if you do all of the things that I command you, you won't be stuck with all those diseases I put on the Egyptians, you'll really be health. And so this is really the basis of healthcare is actually doing your body the way God wants you to do your body. That's one of the great books out of the 60's called "None of These Diseases" by Dr. S.I. McMillen who's just a medical doctor and he said 'hey, let's go back and look at what God said about health things in the Bible." And, my gosh, four thousand, five thousand years later we doctors have finally figured out God got it right.

And I'll make a speculation on this because I think the Bible is always right on science and science eventually does catch up, we're going to find out salt is not that bad a deal for you. There's a reason Jesus made salt a good thing, that we are the salt, we are the light, we're the preservative. Now anything taken too much is going to be a problem, but I have seen in the last two weeks new studies coming out saying well, it turns out salt is not as bad as we thought it was.

Barton: Obama ‘Won’t Even Acknowledge God in Traditional Ways That We’re Used to Most Presidents Doing’

David Barton recently appeared on "The Story of Liberty" radio program to discuss the document he released earlier this year proclaiming that Barack Obama was "America’s Most Biblically-Hostile U. S. President."  Predictably, the interview was filled with the sorts of half-truths and misrepresentations we have come to expect from Barton, including one segment where he spun a convoluted theory that President Obama refuses to protect the conscience rights of Christians not to pay for contraception because Obama himself has no conscience as demonstrated by his support for abortion rights. 

It wouldn't be a proper Barton interview if it didn't include several outright lies which, of course, this one did:

[President Eisenhower] has the National Day of Prayer started. So that's been going since [19]54 and the White House regularly participates in the National Day of Prayer and issues National Day of Prayer proclamations until May of 2009; the first National Day of Prayer after Obama's in office and they decline to host services for the National Day of Prayer. So from the very start, he starts off in a brand new direction after President Clinton had national days of prayer at the White House, and President Carter and President Reagan, but not President Obama, he's not going to do that.

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Seven times he deliberately omitted the reference to God in the Declaration [of Independence,] quotes it but leaves the God part out because he doesn't agree with that. So that's crazy. And he won't say the national motto is "In God We Trust" - I'm sorry, that's established by law - no, he says the national motto is 'E pluribus unum,' that is not the national motto, that is the reverse side of the National Seal, but that is not the national motto. But he says it's not In God We Trust, it's E pluribus unum. He just won't even acknowledge God in traditional ways that we're used to most presidents doing.

As we have pointed out before, even the National Day of Prayer Task Force admits that it was not until President George W. Bush that the White House hosted annual National Day of Prayer events, so Barton's assertion that all presidents until Obama did so is patently false.  As is his claim that Obama regularly refuses to include the phrase "endowed by their Creator" when quoting the Declaration of Independence:

For program host John Bona, Obama's supposedly hostility toward all things Biblical was just further evidence that "no honest, sincere [Christian] can vote for Obama": 

Now, what I'm saying is if you're a professing Christian, let me say this real clear, if you're a profession Christian and you vote for somebody - in this case it's President Obama - who stands for abortion and gay marriage and a host of other things were going to go through, you're denying your Christian faith. Because why? Because Christians are to vote for those most likely to govern according to God's stated laws and principles that's outlined in Holy Scripture. So if that's the standard we use, then there's no honest, sincere person, a Christian, who can vote for Obama.

Now what I'm saying is there isn't any candidate, including President Obama, that should receive a single vote from any true Christian.

Staver: ‘I’m Not an Alarmist’ but this Election Will ‘Literally’ Determine ‘the Survival of Western Civilization’

On today's episode of Liberty Counsel's "Faith and Freedom" radio program, Mat Staver and Matt Barber discussed "the awakening of pastors in this election and the critical importance of this fall." Such an awakening is particularly important now, Staver explained, because "we are at a critical time of the future of America and literally the survival of Western Civilization, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that":

Fischer: ‘We Cannot Give One Millimeter to the Forces of Homosexual Activism’

Bryan Fischer has already made it clear this week that there cannot be any dialogue or compromise with those who do not share his views because, in his view, liberals "cannot be reasoned with ... they can only be defeated."

Fischer repeated this point again today while discussing the recent decision by Gallaudet University to place its chief diversity officer on paid administrative leave for signing petition aimed at overturning Maryland's marriage equality law, saying it proved that the Constitution and the "homosexual agenda" cannot co-exist and so Christians "cannot give an inch, we cannot give one centimeter, we cannot give one millimeter to the forces of homosexual activism.  We cannot accommodate, we can't compromise, we can't find middle ground, they cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be compromised with, they cannot be dialogued with, they can only be defeated":

Joyner: It's 'Mind-Boggling' That Hillary Clinton is Advocating the Use of Sharia

Rick Joyner dedicated yesterday's "Prophetic Perspective on Current Events" program to, once again, warning his viewers about "Islam and Shariah Law and its current threat toward America."  Joyner commented on how he could not understand how any person who knows anything about Sharia could be anything other than vehemently opposed to it, especially women ... prompting him to declare that it is absolutely "mind-boggling" that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been "advocating using Sharia and honoring Sharia law," leading him to conclude that "I don't think she knows what she is talking about": 

SC African American Ministers: Voter ID Decision Shows Continued Need for Voting Rights Act

 A three-judge US District Court panel yesterday upheld South Carolina’s restrictive new voter ID law, but ordered that the law go into effect after November’s election. South Carolina softened its interpretation of the law during litigation. Under that interpretation, voters without proper photo ID are required to cast provisional ballots, although the presumption is that the voters' ballots will be counted unless a clear case can be made that they lied about why they do not have proper ID.

South Carolina members of People For the American Way Foundation’s African American Ministers Leadership Council reacted, expressing concern that that even the softened law could might keep African American South Carolinians from the polls in future elections.

“Today’s decision shows the continued necessity of the Voting Rights Act,” said Rev. Terry Alexander, pastor of Wayside Chapel Baptist Church in Florence and member of the South Carolina House of Representatives. “Because of the VRA’s preclearance provisions, South Carolina had to reinterpret a law that would otherwise have disenfranchised many African Americans. We now urge the state of South Carolina to enforce this law in a way that lives up to its promises in court, ensuring that every South Carolinian, with or without photo ID, can cast a vote that counts. If even one person is disenfranchised because of this law, that will be one person too many.”

The African American Ministers Leadership Council, a program of People For the American Way Foundation founded in 1997, works nationwide to help bring African Americans to the polls through the non-partisan “I Am A VESSEL and I Vote!” program.

Rev. Brendolyn Jenkins-Boseman, pastor of Abundant Life Fellowship in Camden, who was recently named the first-ever female co-chair of AAMLC, added, “We’re working every day to make sure every member of our congregations and communities can cast a vote that counts. While we work to educate voters on their rights under this law, we will also continue to work to make our elections fairer and more accessible.”

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Robison: America is Falling 'Under the Control of Ungodly Forces'

James Robison dedicated two days of his "Life Today" program this week to beseeching his audience to stand up for "faith, family, and freedom," especially heading into this election, because America is "going to have to choose between the forces of light and darkness, good and evil." At a time when "the collapse of commitment and relationships in marriage, the deterioration of the American family, [and] the literal mockery of God" are everywhere, Robison warned, Christians must take a stand and decide that either God is going to be placed at the head of our nation or America is just going to place itself totally "under the control of ungodly forces":

Larry Kudlow: 'A Faith-Based Life Has Got to be a More Rewarding, Fulfilling, and Better Life'

Yesterday, the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life released the results of a survey finding that "the number of Americans who do not identify with any religion continues to grow at a rapid pace. One-fifth of the U.S. public – and a third of adults under 30 – are religiously unaffiliated today."

Those findings were quite alarming to CNBC's Larry Kudlow, who brought Ralph Reed on to his program yesterday to reassure him that the numbers were not really as bad as they looked.  After Reed speculated that the rise in young people claiming no religious affiliation would begin to reverse itself once those young people got married and had children, Kudlow warned that they should not be downplaying the rise in secularism because secularism "is not good for this country, there's too much of it, [and] it's proclaimed too loudly in the mainstream media" before declaring that "a faith-based life has got to be a more rewarding, fulfilling, and better life":

Ted Nugent Lashes Out at Obama and Media while Promoting Discovery Channel Show

Ted Nugent used his column in the Washington Times today to promote his new show, which airs tonight on the Discovery Channel, about his love for guns and gun culture – quite the platform for the conservative activist who compared President Obama to a coyote that must be shot and warned that if Obama is re-elected he “will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.” Nugent has even said that the Obama presidency is making him wish the South had won the Civil War.

After taking to Twitter to claim that Obama is committing treason, Nugent wrote in the Washington Times that his show about “real Americans” is meant to be a counterbalance to “the brainwashed cult of denial drooling in the shadow of a gun-hating media and White House.” That’s right, Obama and the media are conspiring to take away his guns, even though a major media network just gave him a show.

So when Discovery Channel asked if we would like to produce a TV show titled “Ted Nugent’s Gun Country,” I said it is already in progress, so just bring the cameras and push the record button.

Our new show airs Wednesday at 10 p.m., and it simply celebrates and promotes the self-evident truth that 99.99 percent of American gun-owning families use our guns on a regular basis for all the right reasons. The same 99.99 percent of Americans with guns will never use our guns in a crime or for any negative misuse whatsoever.

We train, we plink, we shoot, we compete, we hunt, we have unlimited fun perfecting the use of these wonderful tools for the most pragmatic, utilitarian functions. We shoot billions and billions of rounds of ammo each year, and we own more firepower today than any society in the history of planet Earth.

For the brainwashed cult of denial drooling in the shadow of a gun-hating media and White House: With all this unprecedented increase in guns and ammo in American citizens’ hands, the use of guns in crime is at an all-time low.

It’s not just “Ted Nugent’s Gun Country,” it’s hardworking, hard-playing America’s gun country, and we could not be prouder of it. Tune in to the Discovery Channel for, like our award-winning “Ted Nugent Spirit of the Wild” on the Outdoor Channel, you’ll witness how real Americans enjoy the great outdoors and peace through superior firepower.

Bryan Fischer is Looking at the Bright Side of Slavery

Recently Arkansas state Rep. Jon Hubbard has been receiving a lot of attention for his self-published book in which he states that "the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise [because] the blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth."

Most people, when they read something like this, just shake their heads in amazement ... but not Bryan Fischer, who asserts that though Hubbard may have phrased it poorly, he has a point because "if we have blacks today, now that we've gotten past slavery, blacks are living in America and no matter how they got here - and nobody is trying to say they way they got here was a good thing, nobody is saying that, nobody is defending that - but now they're in a land of opportunity. So maybe God, in his grace, took something that men meant for evil - slavery - and He turned it into something good for blacks who know live in a land of opportunity and unlimited possibility rather than being trapped on a continent which is still mired in poverty and disease":

Robert Knight says for Secular Jews, ‘Liberal Politics is the Religion’

Mission America’s Linda Harvey hosted Robert Knight of the American Civil Rights Union this weekend and expressed her dismay that the Jewish community in the U.S. is not rallying en masse against President Obama, as polls show that Obama has a commanding lead among Jewish voters, and that she has even met Jews in Israel who favor Obama. Knight explained Jewish support for Obama by arguing that he is merely winning the backing of secular Jews, pointing to his former chief of staff Rahm Emmanuel who he said “is Jewish himself but he is secular Jewish” (both Emmanuel and Obama’s current chief of staff Jack Lew are Orthodox Jews). "Liberal politics is the religion, that’s the mindset, that’s the values world that they live in,” Knight claimed, and Harvey added that “Judaism for those folks who are secularists are just an identifier, kind of tribal, but in so many ways they just don’t get it.

Harvey: There is so much of a legacy of traditional liberal values lining up with pretty much secular Jews and that’s true in the US too, and their eyes are being opened, don’t you think?

Knight: I do, I think when the election rolls around we’ll see a record percentage of Jewish votes for the Republican candidate. Not that they love Mitt Romney but I think that they fear Barack Obama and they’ve seen him in any number of ways signal to Israel that he’s not their friend. It’s kind of funny because of his chief of staff used to be Rahm Emmanuel who is Jewish himself but he is secular Jewish, his family wasn’t but he is. Apparently, liberal politics is the religion, that’s the mindset, that’s the values world that they live in.

Harvey: Judaism for those folks who are secularists are just an identifier, kind of tribal, but in so many ways they just don’t get it. But they’re starting to I think so many folks are waking up and are starting to understand that this man is no friend to Israel and will betray you.

Harvey, who earlier argued that Obama “bends over backwards for Islam while sticking it to Christians time and again,” asserted that liberals are now aiding advocates of Sharia law, which Knight said is because both groups “hate America” and are “trying to destroy Judeo-Christian America.”

Harvey: Anybody who is an apologist for Islam is no friend to liberalism, either, I find myself looking at these strange bedfellows of all the left who are such apologists for the repressive values of people that advocate Sharia.

Knight: It’s a weird alliance…what they have in common is the liberal left hates America and the Islamists hate America and they have common cause, trying to destroy Judeo-Christian America, that is the main enemy.

Staver & Barber: Banning 'Ex-Gay' Therapy Is Like Encouraging Alcoholism, Pedophilia, & Kleptomania

California recently passed a law banning sexual orientation conversion therapy for minors and the anti-gay Religious Right is predictably outraged, prompting Liberty Counsel to file suit because, as Mat Staver and Matt Barber explained on the "Faith and Freedom" radio program today, banning therapists from seeking to turn gay kids straight is like requiring therapists to help people accept and embrace their alcoholism, pedophilia, or kleptomania: 

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Voter ID Blocked in Pennsylvania

While it is now guaranteed that voters without an ID cannot legally be turned away, the ruling only applies for the 2012 election. Concerns over voter disenfranchisement continue to exist.
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Kirk Cameron: Left Tried to ‘Crucify Me’ with New ‘Blasphemy Laws’

Kirk Cameron, who compared the backlash to the anti-gay statements he made on Piers Morgan Tonight to the persecution of Puritans in England and being “drug out to the public square and stoned so to speak,” told Liberty University students last week that “blasphemy laws are still alive and well in America” and that his critics tried to “crucify me” because he had “blasphemed the God of Political Correctness.” He said conservative Christians shouldn’t be “wussing out” when confronted by questions about homosexuality and should deliver a message of “truth in love” in order to “see people in a right relationship with God, helped and healed and whole.”

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Later in his speech, Cameron promoted his movie about the Puritans who settled in Massachusetts Bay and claimed they supported “limiting the powers of government” and “religious and political freedom, freedom of speech.” Unfortunately for the students at Liberty University, founded as Liberty Baptist College, they didn’t learn that under the Colony’s law those who “openly condemne or oppose the baptizing of infants,” and a central doctrine of the Baptists is the rejection of infant baptism, “shall be sentenced to banishment.”

So while Cameron holds the Massachusetts Bay Colony as a model for the contemporary U.S., the colony’s Puritan government held that “Idolatry, blasphemy, heresy . . . are to be restrained and punished by the civil authority.”

Sally Ride's Death 'Fits a Consistent Pattern Suggesting That Homosexuality is Associated with an Early Demise'

When Sally Ride, the first American woman to fly in space, died of pancreatic cancer in July, her obituary revealed that she was a lesbian who had been in a committed relationship for the last 27 years.

This revelation prompted the anti-gay "scientists" over at the Family Research Institute to wonder if Ride's sexual orientation may have played in role in her death:

Sally Ride, the first U.S. female astronaut, died this year at 61 of pancreatic cancer. Most women live until their 80s. Something strange afoot?

Ride was married to a fellow astronaut from 1982 to 1987. But it was just revealed she had a ‘long time lesbian relationship’ of 27 years. Do the math: her 27 year relationship with a professor of school psychology (and co-founder of Sally Ride’s company) means that she got into that relationship in 1985, smack in the middle of her marriage. It would appear that her childhood friend broke up her marriage.

And Sally may have paid with some of her lifespan. Our latest research into recent homosexual obituaries from San Francisco indicates that lesbians are dying on average around 60ish. Ride fits the pattern of lesbian deaths, but not that of married women’s deaths, which usually extend into the early-to-mid 80s.

Is this proof that homosexual activity leads to an early death? No, of course not. Had she stayed married, Sally Ride might have died at the same age and of the same malady. But, on average, her death fits a consistent pattern suggesting that homosexuality is associated with an early demise. 

Jeffrey Kuhner Says Obama is a ‘Cultural Muslim’ who will be Impeached and Removed from Office if Re-Elected

Washington Times columnist Jeffrey Kuhner while speaking to Janet Mefferd yesterday insisted that listeners should not believe claims that President Obama is a Muslim but instead argued that he is a “cultural Muslim” who is working to bring down the US in order to further the cause of anti-American Islamists. After delivering a tirade of already-debunked myths regarding the Obama administration’s response to the Libyan embassy attack, Kuhner said Obama is “literally unleashing radical Islam” in the Middle East and predicted that Obama will be impeached and ultimately removed from office if Republicans win control of both houses of Congress.

He is a disciple of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, it’s not that complicated, he is a believer in black liberation theology, he believes that the Third World’s poverty is due to Western imperialism, Israeli imperialism and American imperialism. So he’s a cultural Muslim in the sense that he identifies with the Muslim world, he identifies with the Arab street because like his father and like his mentor George Marshall Davis [sic] and like his spiritual adviser Jeremiah Wright, he sees them as victims of the West and of America. So in his mind, these Islamists are anti-American because we’ve mistreated them so if we just topple these dictators and allow them to come to power and not interfere in their internal affairs then they’ll love us. So that’s why he didn’t interfere in Iran and he let the mullahs crush the pro-democracy movement there, it’s why he pulled the plug on Hosni Mubarak even though the Muslim Brotherhood is infinitely worse than Mubarak, they’re more brutal, more authoritarian, more dictatorial, Christians are being slaughtered in that country every day, and now we have this Islamist monster in Libya. So in his mind he thinks he’s a great liberator but all he is doing is literally unleashing radical Islam.



The Obama White House literally left our U.S. officials to die, he cannot get around that. So I think this will eventually engulf him—I’m not saying today, I’m not saying tomorrow—like Watergate, these things take time. But even if he wins re-election, this will haunt him throughout his second term, it will be a cloud over his entire presidency and if the Republicans manage to lose this election but manage to get control of the Senate he will be impeached and I believe he will be convicted.

Perkins & Boykin Sense a Conspiracy That DADT Repeal is Being Used to Lower Military Voter Turnout

Amid reports that absentee ballot requests among those serving in the military are down dramatically this year in comparison to 2008, Tony Perkins and Don Wildmon brought Jerry Boykin on to "Today's Issues" today so all three could wildly speculate as to the cause.

While some are suggesting that requests for absentee ballots are down because the number of soldiers who are deployed is down and other are explaining that levels are similar to what they were in 2004, Perkins and Boykin suspect that something else is going on; namely that military leaders have had to spend so much time instituting the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell and "implementing the President's social agenda" that they haven't had time to make sure soldiers were able to vote. 

In fact, suggested Boykin, this might even be intentional because members of the military are so angry over the repeal of DADT and "the way the military has been exploited for political purposes with all the release of information about the killing of bin Laden" that they are going to vote overwhelmingly for Mitt Romney:

LaBarbera: Gays are ‘Similar to the Muslims, When they Get the Power that’s When they Start Oppressing Freedom’

To promote Americans For Truth About Homosexuality’s fall banquet, keynote speaker and pseudo-scientist Judith Reisman of Liberty University appeared on AFTAH Radio Hour with Peter LaBarbera to discuss the fictional connection between pedophilia and homosexuality. According to LaBarbera, “many homosexual men were victims of predators, older men, as teenage boys they were seduced into the lifestyle,” and once again insisted that CNN anchor Don Lemon is gay because he was molested.

Reisman argued that pedophiles have targeted the government, the military and schools for infiltration like Soviet spies in order to seek power.

LaBarbera: Judith do you think they are going to succeed in creating sympathy for pedophiles?

Reisman: They already have, this is growing. Let’s understand something; you have many pederasts and pedophiles in positions of power. I thought about writing a book years ago called ‘Pedophiles in Power,’ you don’t get to where we are unless you have so to speak spies in the woodwork, you know? Through World War II some of our top people were working for the Russians and they were advising Franklin Delano Roosevelt. So you have to have people in power, in top positions of power, both in the military by the way, in the church and in the school in order to create the kind of—

LaBarbera: So Judith you’re saying you can’t get to this level of influence without people in high places and of course we’ve seen that also with the homosexual movement and other movements.

LaBarbera and Reisman agreed that the California law banning sexual orientation conversion therapy is designed to help child predators convince their victims that they are gay and therefore increase the gay “power structure.”

LaBarbera: Because of this law, this oppressive law that the homosexualists have pushed, trying to ban treatment for people with this unwanted homosexual attraction that now a boy becomes a victim of say an older man, a pedophile, and he won’t be able to get treatment to reverse that homosexual ideation that’s going on in that kid’s mind.

Reisman: I think that’s the design of the bill, let’s be frank, that’s the design of the bill. There are people in high places, powerful people, who do not want children to reverse their—get straightened out. They don’t want that, they do want to increase their power and their power is based and increased in the numbers of people who self-identify as homosexuals or bisexual or transgender and so forth and so forth. The power lay in the population, the power lay in increasing the number of people who self-identify as dysfunctional but think that that’s normal. The bill in California is designed to increase that power structure, the voting bloc if you will.

LaBarbera’s co-host, pastor John Kirkwood, called the “homosexual movement” the “greatest threat to freedom” in the US and LaBarbera said gays and lesbians are “similar to the Muslims, when they get the power that’s when they start oppressing freedom.”

LaBarbera: There are sectors of society that don’t want kids, little boys and girls to get help with unwanted homosexual attractions. We always said it was coming, we said that when the homosexualists, which are people promoting homosexuality in our culture, when they get the power it’s sort of similar to the Muslims, when they get the power that’s when they start oppressing freedom. John, it is an outrage that you as a parent in California if this bill is signed by Governor Jerry Brown and the gay activists are pushing hard for it to be signed, you as a parent, if you are in California you could not have the freedom to give the treatment you want for your son who might have been molested by a pedophile or by a juvenile, Judith’s been talking about these juvenile predations or say a teenage boy seduces another teenage boy or say a twelve year old boy into homosexuality, you would now be restricted, your options would be limited because they want that idea to get out there that the child is gay.

Kirkwood: This is why that I say the greatest threat to freedom, I normally say religious freedom, in the United States is the homosexual movement. They won’t be satisfied until they control everything.
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