On Friday, rabidly anti-gay activist Scott Lively joined Bryan Fischer in-studio for several segments, where the two argued that homosexuality is worse than murder and genocide and that acceptance of gay marriage is "a harbinger of wrath of God."
In a later segment, Lively warned that while other nations may have already legalized gay marriage, it will be different when America does so because "we're the only nation established on the Bible." As such, America will face a massive "calamity" and wholesale collapse of our national infrastructure if gay marriage ever becomes legalized throughout the country, he said.
"When the United States, in its official policy, establishes homosexual sodomy as a basis for marriage under the Constitution," Lively warned, "that's a whole new ballgame and I'm predicting that we're going to see some kind of calamity and judgement is going to occur ... We're going to suffer the consequences of this and we're going to see a rapid meltdown of the infrastructure of the country, especially anything related to the Christian infrastructure of America."
"When they pass this, if God doesn't intervene, they're going to come out of the gate," he continued, "the entire leftist block is going to declare complete victory for their entire agenda and they're going to shift to the last part of their stage of their conquest, which is punishing dissenters. You haven't seen anything yet":
Last month, rabidly anti-gay activist Scott Lively warned that if the Supreme Court strikes down state bans on same-sex marriage, it could lead to the rise of the Antichrist by the end of the year.
Naturally, Bryan Fischer decided to have Lively join him in-studio for his radio program today so that he could discuss his warning to America as well as promote the upcoming prayer vigil that he will be holding outside of the Supreme Court.
Lively told Fischer that America is about to cross "a line with God that hasn't occurred in the entire history of the world since Noah's flood," which he once again asserted was brought about by the celebration of "homosexual marriage."
"The final straw for God was when they started celebrating and engaging in homosexual and bestial marriages," he said.
Lively went on to declare that homosexuality is "the most egregious form of rebellion against God" and is a sin that is "worse than murder and worse then genocide."
"It's not just another sin," he continued. "It's really a harbinger of the judgment of God ... The celebration by the society [of homosexuality] is a harbinger of the wrath of God":
Needless to say, Carson's retreat is not sitting well with Fischer, who spent twosegments of his program todaycriticizing Carson for his refusal to defend his statement and saying that he may have fatally offended his base with his apology.
"Dr. Carson seems to be not considering the possibility that some people could be offended because he apologized," Fischer said. "They're disappointed in him because he apologized."
He went on to criticize Carson for listening "to the wrong people ... instead of worry about what the base thinks about what they have done and what they have said."
"He may have done fatal damage to his campaign with his apology last night," Fischer said. "The bottom line is that on homosexuality and maybe on everything else, Ben Carson needs to decide right now whether he is going to listen to God or his handlers. His career is in the balance":
In fact, Fischer was so impressed with Carson's statement that he declared that Carson has now set "the benchmark for the other Republican candidates" and called for every other possible GOP candidate to be asked the same question so that they are all forced to state for the record whether they believe that being gay is a choice.
"I hope they are asked this question," Fischer said. "I want every single Republican candidate on record: Do you think that homosexual conduct is a choice? I want every GOP presidential candidate to be asked that question and to be put on record. Do you believe that homosexuality is a choice? What is your answer?"
Bryan Fischer spent a segment of his radio program today reading from a recent McKay Coppins piece on BuzzFeed about the fact that likely GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who opposes same-sex marriage rights, has surrounded himself with potential advisers and campaign staffers who openly support marriage equality.
That, of course, is not sitting well with Fischer, who declared that contrary to claims that these GOP activists are trying to pull the Republican Party into the 21st century, what they are really doing is pushing the party back into the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.
"If they're dragging the Republican Party into any century," Fischer said, "it would be the 20th century B.C., that's roughly the time of Sodom and Gomorrah ... They're not pulling them forward, they're talking the Republican Party backward into the darkness of the past":
Jim Garlow was a guest on Bryan Fischer's "Focal Point" radio program today to promote the upcoming "Future Conference" that Garlow will be hosting at his San Diego church. During the course of the conversation, the two men began discussing the effort being led by radical Christian nationalist David Lane to recruit 1,000 pastors to run for political office, which Garlow proclaimed was an absolute necessity because the true purpose of government is to function as "a minister of God."
"If you live in a constitutional republic or a democracy, as we do," Garlow said, "that means it behooves us as followers of Christ to make sure our government functions for the purpose for which it was created, specifically to be the minister of God.... We are in a constitutional republic where we the people determine what our government is and so consequently, as followers of Christ, we're commanded to be involved and to make sure the government functions as a minister of God":
While the U.S.-led coalition to defeat the so-called Islamic State has launched around 5,000 airstrikes against the extremist group, with Central Command posting daily updates on new airstrikes targeting the organization also known as ISIS or ISIL, several Republican politicians appear to believe that the U.S. is not at all engaging in a fight against group.
The same politicians will readily praise the leaders of Egypt and Jordan for launching airstrikes against the terrorist group, while then criticizing President Obama for not following in their footsteps, even though the U.S. is responsible for the vast majority of the airstrikes carried out by the anti-ISIS coalition. Of course, many Republicans and Democrats have expressed legitimate criticisms of the administration’s strategy to defeat ISIS, but some Republicans are acting as if the administration is not at all engaged in fighting the group, whose momentum has been blunted since the airstrikes began.
As Jon Stewart noted, Fox News pundits deny the facts about America’s anti-ISIS airstrikes “even when that fact is spelled out directly next to their face.”
But Fox News commentators aren’t the only one living in this conservative fantasy world.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker continued his habit of simply punting on questions by telling journalists in London recently that he doesn’t have a strategy to fight ISIS, but it is “certainly something I will answer in the United States in the future.” Walker nonetheless criticized the current strategy in an interview with Martha Raddatz, saying that the U.S. needs to show “leadership” and “take the fight to ISIS.” When Raddatz pointed out that the U.S. has launched thousands of anti-ISIS airstrikes, Walker simply replied that “we need to have an aggressive strategy.”
Another potential presidential candidate, former New York Gov. George Pataki, also seems to have blocked out of his mind the fact that the U.S. has been attacking ISIS for months, expressing anger that President Obama supposedly doesn’t realize that “we have got to attack these terrorist groups overseas before they have a chance to attack us again here.”
Rep. Scott Perry, R-Pa., went one step further, telling a conservative conference that he faces a “conundrum” about supporting the Authorization for the Use of Military Force against ISIS since “we have a commander-in-chief who seems not only not ready, not unwilling, but really working collaboratively with what I would say is the enemy of freedom.”
The congressman worried that Obama would actually use the resolution “to further their cause and what seems to be his cause.”
Perry isn’t the only GOP House member to hold such views.
“Everybody’s got no-go zones in Europe, Bobby Jindal is telling the truth about that,” Fischer said last month, leaving out the fact that Jindal was unable to name a single such “no-go zone.”
On Monday, American Family Radio hosts Jim Stanley and Ed Vitagliano interviewed British evangelist and House of Lords member Lord Robert Edmiston about immigration in Britain, so naturally Stanley asked Edmiston about the no-go zones.
“In the U.K., there are no-go zones as I understand it?” Stanley asked.
Edmiston, however, told Stanley that “there is no such thing as a no-go area.”
Edmiston said that while there are neighborhoods where immigrants are heavily concentrated, “there really isn’t a no-go area as such.”
Earlier today, we noted that the American Family Association had released its own anti-Christian "bigotry map" in response to having been designated as an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center several years ago.
The usefulness of the AFA's map is debatable, since is seems to just blindly designate every gay, secular, atheist, or humanist group as a bigoted anti-Christian organization without providing any actual evidence to support such a designation.
Nonetheless, the AFA's Bryan Fischer thinks the new map is a game-changer, crowing in a typically clueless fashion on his radio program today that the key difference between the SPLC designating the AFA as a hate group and the AFA labeling everyone else as anti-Christian bigots is that the allegation that the AFA is a hate group is false while the AFA's designation is true.
"They falsely accuse of us hate," he cogently explained, "but we accurately and truly accuse these groups of anti-Christian bigotry."
To make things even more absurd, Fischer then proceeded to accuse us at Right Wing Watch of being "apoplectic" and "almost frothing at the mouth" over the AFA's useless new map:
On his radio program today, Bryan Fischer coined a new phrase — "Harfed up a hairball" — inspired by State Department Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf, who has spent the last two days trying to tamp down a right-wing freakout over her assertion that the world cannot simply "kill our way out of this war" with ISIS.
As Fischer explained it, this phrase was now going to become his stock description for when "you say something that is patently absurd."
"Liberals are absolutely anti-science when it comes climatology and global warming," Fischer said. "This is trait that they share in common with Islam. Our leaders on the left are almost as unscientific, almost as anti-science as the leaders of the movement of Islam":
Back in 2003, Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore became a hero in the eyes of many Religious Right activists when he defied a court ruling to remove a Ten Commandments monument that he installed in Alabama Supreme Court building's rotunda. After defying a federal court's ruling to move the monument out of the courthouse, Moore was eventually removed from his position by the state's court of the judiciary, only to return to his old post nearly 10 years later after winning the 2012 election.
Now, Moore is back in the national spotlight thanks to his demand that state judges refuse to abide by a federal court ruling striking down the state's ban on same-sex marriage. And, once again, right-wing activists are rallying to Moore’s defense, endorsing his claim that state sovereignty and his personal reading of the Bible trump the authority of the federal courts.
Leading anti-gay groups including the National Organization for Marriage and the Family Research Council have defended Moore, portraying his standoff with the federal judiciary as the latest example in their increasingly absurd victimization narrative. As they see it, Moore is facing unfair treatment because of his deeply-held religious beliefs and is taking a courageous stance against judicial overreach... and Satan.
Here are five of the ways that right-wing activists are defending Moore's anti-gay campaign:
5) Roy Moore IsJust Like Martin Luther King, Jr.
American Family Radio’s Bryan Fischer is upset that some critics have compared Moore to the Southern leaders who openly defied federal laws and court orders during the civil rights era. Fischer, for his part, thinks that Moore is more like civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr.
The federal judge in the marriage case, according to Fischer, is the one "standing in the doorway" like Alabama Gov. George Wallace and following in the footsteps of Jim Crow supporters.
4) Roy Moore IsJust Like The Apostle Paul
After interviewing Moore on her radio program, American Family Association governmental affairs director Sandy Rios said that "Justice Moore in Alabama is standing on solid ground" while "the other justices around the country and attorneys general who have rushed to accommodate these federal judges have been out of line in doing that."
Rios added that "if the law contradicts something God has said in scripture" then people should "disobey the law."
"You may, like Justice Moore, lose your job, you may, like [the Apostle] Paul, lose your life," she said. "Some people may not like the way Justice Moore has done this but I admire any man who follows God, who is willing to give up things very precious to him in order to take a stand."
3) Roy Moore IsStopping Satan In His Tracks
Cindy Jacobs, a self-proclaimed prophet, said God told her that Alabama will become a beacon of light to the nation that will stop Satan's control over the judiciary.
Jacobs proclaimed: "God says, 'There will be an anointing come out of Alabama that is going to reserve the judicial activism that has been in this nation,' says God. 'I am going to give weight to your voice, I am going to give strength to your voice, I say Alabama will be a first fruit state that will be a bastion that will begin to undo the agendas to take the values of Jesus Christ out of this nation,' God says. 'And I'm going to use Alabama to reverse what Satan has done and it will tip the nation.'"
2) Roy Moore Is Stopping Non-Existent Hate Speech Laws
The right-wing legal group Liberty Counsel has praised Moore and pledged to "aggressively defend" any Alabama judge who follows his orders to refuse marriage licenses to same-sex couples. These judges, Liberty Counsel chairman Mat Staver wrote in an email to supporters, are facing "an all-out assault from radical homosexual organizations, which are threatening and demonizing these law-abiding judges.”
Although Staver told supporters last week that Liberty Counsel had “filed suit to have same-sex 'marriages' [in Alabama] cease until the United States Supreme Court rules on the issue early this summer," he told a conservative radio network just a day earlier that he thinks the state "does not have to obey" any Supreme Court decision that favors marriage equality.
Staver even claimed that Moore is preventing Alabama from following in the footsteps of states where "Christians and people of faith and values have been silenced through ‘hate speech’ laws."
Of course, laws prohibiting hate speech are unconstitutional and do not exist anywhere in America.
1) Roy Moore Stopping God's Wrath
The Alabama Republican Party is thrilled that Moore is flouting federal courts. Its chairman, Bill Armistead, wrote on the state party website that Moore's actions may fend off divine wrath:
So, how is it that God’s truth can be turned on its head as the debate now rages in Alabama regarding the meaning of marriage? The answer is that we, as a society, have become our own god. We have made God in our image. But, God will not be mocked. The State of Alabama and the United States of America will reap God’s wrath if we embrace and condone things that are abhorrent to God, such as redefining marriage as anything other than a union between one man and one woman.
A few months ago, Bryan Fischer justified the forcible removal of Native Americans from their land by citing the biblical story of the Amorites, who he said “lapsed into superstition and paganism and idolatry and sexual immorality and savagery” and were therefore justly removed by God.
On his American Family Radio program yesterday, Fischer cited the same story to warn that the United States is similarly in danger of “forfeiting our moral authority to maintain governance of this piece of land” because of legal abortion, a “turning away from Christianity” and, of course, “sexual immorality.”
“Again, the same principle of people can become morally disqualified to exercise sovereign authority over land by their savagery (think about the blood we’ve shed in abortion); by their superstition (think about our turning away from Christianity and from the God of the scriptures); and sexual immorality, I mean that’s an obvious problem in our culture,” he said.
“If that principle is true that God will displace a nation that lapses into unrepentant savagery, sexual immorality and superstition, then we are in danger, I believe, of forfeiting our moral authority to maintain governance of this piece of land, maintain sovereignty,” he warned. “Something that ought to be a concern to all of us, something that ought to take us to our knees in prayer and repentance for our land.”
Fischer didn’t specify who he believed God would empower to drive Americans from their land, although last year he cited some of the same scriptural passages to claim that God is using radical Islamic groups like ISIS to inflict his judgment on America for gay rights.
Bryan Fischer feels like he hasn’t seen Hillary Clinton in a while, and has an “educated guess” as to why.
“You know, people are looking for some explanation,” he said on his American Family Radio program today. “Where is she? Why haven’t we literally seen her face in weeks? And I would suggest that there is a possibility, anyway, that her face hasn’t been seen in weeks because she’s getting it prepared for the campaign, if you catch my drift.”
“I have an idea that when the new and improved Hillary emerges, she may look a whole lot different,” he said.
Bryan Fischer is outraged that a federal judge may order the dozens of Alabama probate who are refusing to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples to back down. On his American Family Radio Program today, Fischer said that such an order would be tantamount to “tyranny” and “slavery” enforced by the “gay gestapo.”
“There’s a court hearing today before the federal judge, and she may order these probate judges to violate their own conscience and their own religious scruples,” he said. “She may order them to violate their conscience. You know what that is, ladies and gentlemen? You are ordered by an agent of the government to violate your conscience? That is tyranny.”
“When you are ordered by an agent of the government to violate your own conscience in something that you do, that is slavery. If you are forced to violate your conscience to do work, that is tyranny, that’s Tammy Bruce, that’s the gay gestapo. Tammy Bruce is the one that coined the term ‘gay gestapo.’ That’s the gay gestapo at work. You either do what we tell you or you’re going to get punished.”
Jennifer LeClaire warns that God is deeply grieved by "Fifty Shades of Grey" and that "the spirit of Jezebel is often behind this immoral trend, tapping into the lust of the flesh with its seductive agenda."
NOM likens its scheduled "March for Marriage" to the fight for civil rights and 1963's "March on Washington."
Stu Burguiere is not going to miss Jon Stewart when he leaves "The Daily Show" because Stewart is an unfunny hack who has been repetitive and boring for years ... says the man who sits beside Glenn Beck every day.
Apparently, the organization Morality In Media is now known as the National Center on Sexual Exploitation.
Mark Creech says that "if Republicans move away from conservative evangelical Christians and tango with the left on social issues, no Judas kiss is going to make everything alright. They'll find themselves abandoned on the dance floor and with no ride home."
Finally, Bryan Fischer decided to cover the death of Kayla Mueller on his radio show today by calling her anti-Semitic and, for some reason, raising questions about whether she had a Muslim boyfriend.
On his radio program today, Bryan Fischer discussed David Axelrod's claim in his new book that President Obama concealed his support for gay marriage when running for office for political reasons, a claim which Obama disputes.
Fischer's main takeaway from the whole episode, of course, is that what President Obama was really doing in eventually announcing his support for gay marriage was declaring that he was not a Christian.
"Think about this for a second," Fischer said. "President Obama said several times, 'The reason I believe that marriage is a union of one man and one woman is because I am a Christian.' So what does it mean, what are the implications when President Obama says, 'I no longer believe that marriage is a union of one man and one woman'? The implication is, 'I'm no longer a Christian. Christianity teaches marriage is a union of one man and one woman, I used to be one of those, I used to be a Christian, I used to believe in a Christian view of marriage. I don't any longer' ... If you press what Obama's saying there, he would be saying 'look, I'm no longer a Christian'":
On his radio program today, Bryan Fischer hailed Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore as a modern-day Martin Luther King, Jr. for his order to state probate judges not to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples after a federal judge struck down the state's gay marriage ban.
Fischer laughably asserted that it is the federal judge, not Moore, "who is standing in the courthouse doorway ... in defiance of both the law and the Constitution," before praising Moore and the probate judges who are refusing to grant marriage licenses to gay couples as the heirs of MLK.
"What Judge Moore and these probate judges are doing is in the finest tradition of Martin Luther King, Jr.," he said. "They are waging the civil rights battle of this decade, using nonviolent protest to do it":
People For the American Way released a new video today calling out the Republican National Committee for accepting an all-expenses-paid trip to Israel for several dozen of its members from the American Family Association, an organization with a long record of promoting bigotry against LGBT people and non-Christians.
Today, People For the American Way released a new ad challenging members of the Republican National Committee (RNC) for accepting an all-expense paid trip to Israel from the American Family Association (AFA). The ad calls on the RNC to stand against the AFA’s hateful rhetoric about Jewish Americans, LGBT individuals, and many other people in our country.
“The hate of the American Family Association is rampant, from calling ‘Jewish atheists’ some of the ‘worst enemies of the country’ to claiming that gay people caused the Holocaust,” said Michael Keegan, President of People For the American Way. “We deserve to know why Republicans continue to stand with this hate group after years of offensive statements by their leaders. By failing to speak up against the AFA, Republican leaders are showing their acceptance of hateful rhetoric in their party.”
Watch the ad here:
PFAW’s Right Wing Watch blog has long documented the bigoted statements of AFA leaders. Here are just some of the key examples:
Selected Statements of AFA Leaders
Bryan Fischer, Former Official Spokesperson for the AFA
“The Nazi Party, ladies and gentlemen, was formed in a gay bar. In other words, no homosexual thugs, no Nazi Party.” [6/9/11]
Gay sex is "Domestic Terrorism. I Don't Know What Else You'd Call It."[9/15/10]
Native Americans deserved to lose control of North America because "the superstition, savagery and sexual immorality" made them "morally disqualified from sovereign control of American soil." [2/8/11]
All new immigrants must “convert to Christianity” or “stay home.” [4/8/11]
Gay rights activists “are Nazis. Do not be under any illusions about what homosexual activists will do with your freedoms and your religion if they have the opportunity. They'll do the same thing to you that the Nazis did to their opponents in Nazi Germany.” [5/18/11]
Christians should convert Jews to Christianity, Jews and Christians “do not worship the same God.” [8/26/11]
“The purpose of the First Amendment is to protect the free exercise of the Christian religion.” [9/29/11]
"Political leadership ought to be ... reserved for the hands of males" [10/15/12]
People who believe in evolution are “disqualified from holding political office in the United States of America.” [1/2/14]
“Being an active homosexual should disqualify you from public office…we're going to have to choose between the gay agenda and Christianity. We can't have both.” [1/8/15]
David Lane, Founder of the AFA’s American Renewal Project
The separation of church and state is a “lie” and a “fabricated whopper” used to stop “Christian America – the moral majority – from imposing moral government on pagan public schools, pagan higher learning and pagan media.” [6/6/13]
“We were established as a Christian nation, for the advancement of the Christian faith.” [1/30/15]
“Vote to restore the Bible and prayer in public schools or be sent home. Hanging political scalps on the wall is the only love language politicians can hear.” [7/17/13]
While “America was a Christian nation” since its founding, now it must choose between being “a Christian nation or a pagan nation.” [7/17/13]
“Homosexuals praying at the Inauguration” of President Obama in 2013 will provoke God’s wrath in the form of “car bombs in Los Angeles, Washington D.C. and Des Moines, Iowa.” [7/23/13]
Republicans who support marriage equality are like politicians who backed slavery in the run-up to the Civil War. [1/29/15]
Americans “grovel to the false god of Islam,” “America, a Christian nation in heritage and culture, is being dismantled brick by brick.” [1/29/15]
Throughout the week, we have been chronicling the fact that several dozen members of the Republican National Committee are currently in Israel on a trip organized by Christian nationalist David Lane and paid for by an anti-gay hate group, the American Family Association.
Until attention began to be focused on the trip, nobody over at the RNC seemed to have any problem with the AFA's long record of openly promoting bigotry. Then, in a pathetically transparent effort to alleviate the controversy surrounding this trip, the AFA stripped its most notorious bigot, Bryan Fischer, of his title as the organization's director of issues analysis and role as official spokesman last week, while keeping him on staff and allowing him to retain his daily radio program on the AFA's radio network.
It seems as if the AFA's feeble effort to wash its hands of Fischer's bigotry has failed, as Haaretz is reporting that RNC Chairman Reince Priebus backed out of the trip at the last moment, claiming that he had a funeral to attend in the U.S. but would be joining the group later. But now, according to the report, Priebus will not be joining the group at all.
The most interesting aspect of this report is the fact Dennis Prager, who is currently in Israel on this very trip, says that everyone who went on the AFA's dime is repulsed by Fischer and his views.
Earlier this week, the AFA distanced itself from its former spokesman who had made statements described by critics as anti-Semitic, homophobic and racist. The spokesman, Bryan Fischer, had said, among other remarks, that America is a Christian nation in which Jews and Muslims are not entitled to constitutional protection for their religious expression.
Prager said he completely supported the decision to cut ties with Fischer. “The second I heard what he said, I said that if he really said those thing they’re repugnant,” he said. “Everybody here thinks they’re repugnant. Frankly, I can’t believe that a human being in the 21st century would say such things. It’s mind-blowing.”
The Jewish talk show host said he had never heard of Fischer before, nor had he had any dealings with any other representatives of the AFA. “This is all brand new news to me,” he said.