Peter LaBarbera

Right Wing Leftovers - 9/25/13

  • Tony Perkins vaguely threatens legal action against the Southern Poverty Law Center.
  • Speaking of Perkins, Gov. Bobby Jindal has appointed him to the Louisiana Commission on Law Enforcement.
  • Peter LaBarbera warns that "when you have boys being awarded and elected 'Homecoming Queen,' you are a society in big trouble."
  • It has gotten to the point where Glenn Beck is now reading excerpts from books like "Fahrenheit 451" on the air.
  • Finally, Jan Markell warns that Somali immigrants in Minnesota will carry out a Kenya-style attack on the Mall of America: "The liberal, twisted mind here in Minnesota cannot possibly conceive of some of these people as being evil ... But I and many other conservatives here in Minnesota are very concerned that this Mall of America is going to be targeted eventually – and the casualties could be astronomical."

LaBarbera: 'It's Almost As If Homosexual Sodomy Was Created To Spread Disease'

Peter LaBarbera closed out his week co-hosting Liberty Counsel's "Faith and Freedom" radio program with Matt Barber pretty much exactly as you would expect, continuing his attacks on gays and railing against the "sin of Sodom."

Saying that gay activists desperately "want approval for their lifestyle," LaBarbera was outraged that they are now using the government to "encourage and celebrate sin," so much so that "now they want to attach the sin of Sodom to marriage."

Approvingly quoting another anti-gay activist, LaBarbera declared that "it's almost as if homosexual sodomy was created to spread disease; that's how dangerous and unnatural this lifestyle is."

"When a nation embraces such confusion and such evil," LaBarbera warned, "it is on a moral decline":

Barber: Every Gay Person Knows 'What They Are Doing Is Immoral, Unnatural, & Self-Destructive'

Peter LaBarbera returned to Liberty Counsel's "Faith and Freedom" radio program today where, once again, he and Matt Barber spent ten minutes denigrating gays as people who know, deep down, that their lives are immoral and shameful.

"God has written his laws on the hearts of every man, woman, and child," Barber said. "Every individual engaged in the homosexual lifestyle, who has adopted a homosexual identity, they know intuitively that what they are doing is immoral, unnatural, and self-destructive. Yet they thirst for that affirmation because they've tied their whole identity up in this sexual perversion."

LaBarbera agreed, saying that media outlets like Fox News need to start covering the stories of "ex-gays" like Charlene Cothran "who was a famous lesbian activist, who basically her mother and friends were praying for her and one day she was at a black gay pride event in Chicago, of all places, and she looked out and she had a tremendous sense of shame. That came from God!"

Peter LaBarbera Takes On Pope Francis, Claims 'Satan's Earthly Minions' Use Homosexuality To Undermine Catholic Church

Americans For Truth About Homosexuality head Peter LaBarbera is none too pleased with new comments on homosexuality made by Pope Francis, writing that a fear he “and many like-minded pro-family advocates share (including several Catholic friends with whom I’ve spoken) is that the pope is naive about the aggressive homosexualist agenda.”

According to LaBarbera, “Satan’s earthly minions” concocted a plan to bring gay men into the priesthood so they can “seduce and molest” boys in order to discredit and weaken the Church’s authority to condemn homosexuality. LaBarbera now fears that the Pope is giving ammunition to “pro-homosexuality and pro-abortion militants” to further their goal of bringing “corruption and destruction to many institutions.”

Americans For Truth About Homosexuality works closely with conservative Catholics from across the nation, indeed the world, in opposition to the homosexual activist movement. It is my experience that wherever the Catholic Church still has influence, if the Church or its leaders takes a strong stand against pro-”gay” legislation, the bills usually fail — but if Church leaders compromise on doctrine or go AWOL (public policy-speaking), homosexual activists triumph.

Having said that, I acutely recognize — from my perspective as an evangelical (who was raised Catholic) — that there has always been a “friendly distrust” or competition between ministry and the defense of morality. Between Christians who believe that primary role of believers is compassionate Gospel outreach to lost homosexuals — and “culture war” Christians who (although also loving the Gospel) see religious traditionalists as a crucial force resisting the Sin Movement of homosexuality that so profoundly threatens our culture.



I dare say that a more sinister plot to undermine the Catholic Church and its reputation could not have been carried out had Satan’s earthly minions spent $100 million devising one:

1. Homosexual men take advantage of more lax standards to enter priesthood.

2. Homosexual priests and male Catholic school officials use their authoritative role to seduce and molest mostly male teenagers and boys.

3. Homosexuals like then-Archbishop Weakland and their sympathizers in the Church cover up priest abuses and transfer predators to new, unsuspecting parishes, where they molest more boys.

4. The homosexual-predator scandal blows up in the media — alienating millions of Catholics from the Church and doing untold damage to its reputation and moral, spiritual and political influence.

5. Homosexuals and liberal allies who advocate for acceptance of homosexuality turn around and say Church is now discredited because it harbored “pedophiles.” Meanwhile, Church officials resist full disclosure of the scandal, thus perpetuating it.

6. Lastly, “gay” activists and their liberal allies continue to insist that the male-on-boy priest abuse scandal has little or nothing to do with homosexuals — but rather was a “pedophile” or “ephebophile” (adult who is sexual attracted to adolescents) problem.

My hunch is that each and every one of those complicit Church apologists for homosexuality, like Weakland, would consider himself “more compassionate” and “more Christ-like” than “anti-gay Catholics” who have been scandalized by the homosexualist advances in their Church. Such is the arrogance of liberals. This despite the untold suffering of boys victimized by sexual deviants masquerading as pastoral guardians of others’ souls.

All this is a roundabout way of saying that the great fear that I and many like-minded pro-family advocates share (including several Catholic friends with whom I’ve spoken) is that the pope is naive about the aggressive homosexualist agenda. Pro-”gay” ideologues are cunning and tactical — they are already using the pope’s words to advocate ideas that he surely condemns. While laying claim to the Gospel and noble concepts like tolerance and equality, they have brought corruption and destruction to many institutions, of which the Catholic Church is but one.

We understand that the pope is not embracing a change in Church doctrine, and that he truly wants to help homosexual strugglers come to God. But at the same time we recognize that words matter in this debate — indeed, they often drive it. (Witness the deviously brilliant slogan “marriage equality” used by LGBT advocates to denote sodomy-based so-called “marriage.”) And unfortunately the words Pope Francis has chosen (e.g., warning against “obsessing” about Church doctrines (such as Vatican teachings on homosexuality) and stating regarding “gay” priests: “Who am I to judge them?”) are already being manipulated, distorted and exploited by LGBT activists and their allies. That includes pro-homosexual priests like Fr. James Martin who are no friends of orthodoxy.



Nobody is predicting the dissolution of the Catholic Church, but when you see pro-homosexuality and pro-abortion militants acclaiming the new the pope’s approach, beware. AFTAH will be following this story closely.

Barber & LaBarbera: 'Every Major Institution Is Being Corrupted By The Homosexual Agenda'

Peter LaBarbera was the guest on Liberty Counsel's "Faith and Freedom" radio program again today where he and Matt Barber praised Trail Life USA, the new scouting organization explicitly created as an anti-gay alternative to the Boy Scouts. 

LaBarbera said that the Boy Scouts have "sold their soul to the devil" and called for the creation of anti-gay alternatives to organizations "on all fronts" because "every major institution is being corrupted by the homosexual agenda."

LaBarbera said there ought to be anti-gay versions of organizations such as the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association and the like because gay activist are taking them over and forcing people to approve of their behavior in order to "soothe their own conscience."

Barber agreed, saying that progressives are just modern-day pagans and comparing gay activists to a "swarm of locusts" who attack "anything noble" in an effort to destroy it and leave nothing but a dried husk:

Barber: The NALT Christians Project Is 'Apostasy'

Inspired by the success of Dan Savage's "It Gets Better" project, a few weeks ago John Shore and Truth Wins Out launched the Not All Like That (NALT) Christians Project, which is designed to "give LGBT-affirming Christians a means of proclaiming to the world—and especially to young gay people—their belief and conviction that there is nothing anti-biblical or at all inherently sinful about being gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender."

Given that mission, it comes as no surprise that Matt Barber and Peter LaBarbera, who are exactly the sort of people that participants in NALT are proclaiming that not all Christians are like, are unhappy about the project, with Barber declaring that he won't stand for being lectured to about Christianity by someone like Savage, who is "one of the most hateful and vile human beings on the planet."

"This is comical," Barber said. "This is laughable.  To have vile, anti-Christian bigots who are pushing a radical, dangerous sexual anarchist agenda presuming to lecture Christians and have people - self-identified Christians, liberal so-called Christians - upload videos about how they support something that God calls an abomination, there's no other word for it, it's apostasy when you have self-described Christians do it.  It is par for the course when you have those who hate God, people like Dan Savage doing it":

Right Wing Leftovers - 9/17/13

  • We can now add Richard Nixon to the all-encompassing list of people whom Glenn Beck believes to be "progressives."
  • Jim DeMint says President Obama has nothing but disdain for the Constitution.
  • Scott Lively has penned an open "Letter to the British People," calling upon them to turn back to God.
  • It is amazing to watch Bryan Fischer go off about President Obama's effort to send non-lethal aid to Syria despite the fact that he quite obviously understands absolutely nothing about it.
  • Finally, Fischer had Peter LaBarbera on his radio program today for two segments.  Take one guess what they spent the entire time talking about.

Harvey: LGBT-Inclusive Education Sign Of 'A Self-Destructive Society'

Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality joined Mission America’s Linda Harvey over the weekend to discuss how groups like GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network) are attempting to use schools to make kids gay and transgender, which they suggested would increase the rate of HIV.

Responding to GLSEN’s Transgender Students Rights initiative, Harvey asked: “Why in the world are we doing this to kids? You know, a self-destructive society would do these kinds of things, wouldn’t they? And look at us.”

“Yes. A healthy society discriminates against perverse and dangerous and unhealthy behaviors such as homosexuality, bisexuality and transgenderism,” LaBarbera said. “That’s what a healthy society does.”

Right Wing Round-Up - 9/9/13

Mefferd: If SCOTUS Legalizes Gay Marriage, Prepare For Divine Punishment

Janet Mefferd spent part of Labor Day chatting with Peter LaBarbera of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, where they spent most of the time decrying New Jersey’s new law barring ex-gay therapy for minors.

“The homosexual agenda is about restricting people’s liberty and freedom,” LaBarbera told Mefferd, “We have to get back to showing where the true discrimination is: the citizens of New Jersey just lost their freedom here; we have got to get back to emphasizing that we are for true liberty.”

After reading an excerpt of Justice Antonin Scalia’s dissent in the Windsor decision, Mefferd said that it is only a matter of time before the Supreme Court declares “gay marriage a constitutional right,” which she believes will bring about divine wrath: “And every single Founding Father will flip in his grave and God in his Heaven will still have that arrow, that bow and arrow pointed at us, that Jonathan Edwards talked about in ‘Sinners in the hands of an Angry God,’ holding the bow and arrow, holding back His wrath, but only for a time.”

Right Wing Leftovers - 8/29/13

  • Mike Huckabee has endorsed Sen. Mitch McConnell and Steve Deace is not impressed, saying that Huck is "now working against us."
  • John Stemberger promises that his new scouting organization will be more than just an anti-gay version of the Boy Scouts.
  • If you are running for public office and say of President Obama that you hope somebody will "shoot the Ni**er," you are going to get a nice visit from the Secret Service.
  • Sandy Rios will be headlining Peter LaBarbera's AFTAH Dinner-Banquet on Nov. 16.
  • Finally, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant is very appreciative of what "the American Family [Association] does for all of us."

LaBarbera Praises Russia Gay Rights Speech Ban, Attacks Gay Refugees: 'We Have Enough As It Is'

While Peter LaBarbera insists that gay rights advocates intend to end freedom of speech, the Americans For Truth About Homosexuality leader is a big fan of Russia’s new law which criminalizes speech it considers “homosexual propaganda.” LaBarbera told VCY America’s Jim Schneider yesterday on Crosstalk that the law is simply a measure to protect Russian children from the “excesses of American homosexual activism.”

After defending the “propaganda” ban, LaBarbera said he is staunchly against any efforts to offer asylum to gay Russians who seek to leave the country, saying that there are too many gay activists in the US already:

We don’t want homosexual activists from across the world, we have enough in the United States as it is. This is just very shocking, what’s happened is America has become the decadent nation which is trying to export homosexuality across the world and some countries are saying no, we don’t want this perversion being celebrated in our country.

Right Wing Leftovers - 8/21/13

  • Brian Camenker says Scott Brown will never be president because "losing to that idiot Elizabeth Warren, that's like the mark of Cain forever as far as I'm concerned."
  • San Antonio Councilwoman Elisa Chan stands by her anti-gay comments and will not apologize.
  • On his radio broadcast today, David Barton claimed that IRS audits are unconstitutional.
  • Peter LaBarbera says Gov. Chris Christie's signing of legislation banning "ex-gay" therapy for minors is "a craven capitulation to the secular political correctness of this age that celebrates homosexuality and extreme gender confusion as 'civil rights.'"
  • Finally, "Coach" Dave Daubenmire has been fired from his job as a football coach yet again.

NOM’s Brian Brown Brags About Supporting Anti-Gay Work Abroad

Last year, when some internal planning documents from the National Organization for Marriage were released as part of court filings, public attention focused on the group’s explicit racial wedge strategies designed to foment tensions between LGBT and African American communities. But the documents also revealed NOM’s desire to play globally: they talk of “Internationalizing the Marriage Issue” and working “to halt the movement toward gay marriage worldwide.”

In an email sent yesterday, NOM President Brian Brown brags explicitly about supporting the international work of the World Congress of Families, a project of The Howard Center for Religion Family and Society, and making a pitch for donations to the group. Here’s Brown’s quote:

The World Congress of Families is THE group standing up for the family around the world.  They have done amazing work in uniting all of those who stand for the truth about marriage and family.  It has been an honor to partner with WCF and to be a part of their most recent Congress in Australia and regional conference in Trinidad and Tobago.  I wholeheartedly endorse their work and urge you to financially support their efforts.

Just who is Brown so proud to be raising money for? In just the past several months, World Congress of Families spokesmen have:

  • praised new anti-gay laws in Russia and said Russians “might be the Christian saviors to the world"
  • called that the Supreme Court’s decision striking down the Defense of Marriage Act a “travesty” that would encourage pedophilia and doom America to “extinction”
  • portrayed undocumented immigrants as “parasites, criminals, potential terrorists and the arrogantly unassimilable”
  • warned that President Obama will soon be pushing conservatives into “cattle cars” as part of his plans to “crush dissent.”

The World Congress of Families, of course, defines “natural family” in a way that excludes same-sex couples: “the term 'natural' precludes incompatible constructs of the family as well as incompatible behaviors among its members.” The Howard Center hosted a symposium in Washington, D.C. earlier this year in which a parade of right-wing speakers claimed that the real “war on women” comes from “those who present themselves as champions of women’s rights.”

WCF summits and regional gatherings held around the world - -this year’s was held in Sydney, Australia --  are a magnet for speakers from American Religious Right leaders like Peter LaBarbera who share anti-choice and anti-LGBT equality strategies with their international allies. As Brown mentions in his fundraising pitch, WCF held a Caribbean conference in Trinidad in June. Among the long list of American religious right figures speaking, in addition to Brown, were Janet Shaw Crouse of Concerned Women for America and WCF’s own Don Feder.

Next year’s World Congress of Families conference will be held in Moscow. Perfect.

LaBarbera: 'Martin Luther King Would Be Rolling Over in His Grave' About LGBT Rights

Sandy Rios of the American Family Association yesterday ranted against policies to accommodate transgender students in California and Massachusetts, even claiming that the Bay State’s “horrible” trans-inclusive guidance represents a “nightmare, Sci-Fi scenario.” While speaking with Americans For Truth About Homosexuality head Peter LaBarbera about a recent move by the Justice Department on behalf of transgender students, LaBarbera called it “public policy insanity.”

“The transgender movement shows the absurdity of the whole LGBT notion of civil rights,” LaBarbera told Rios. “Martin Luther King would be rolling over in his grave if he saw what civil rights has become according to Eric Holder.”

LaBarbera: Gays Should Take Responsibility for Catholic Church Abuse Scandal, Desecrated National Cathedral

Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality was the special guest today on Sandy Rios In The Morning, where he was called in to discuss the Pope’s recent comments on gay priests. While LaBarbera didn’t think the Pope’s remarks reflected a major shift in church policy, he was worried that the new Pope isn’t anti-gay enough.

“It seems to me that the last thing that the Catholic Church needs is more homosexual priests,” he said, claiming that gay activists led a “penetration of the church” in order to molest children and shield themselves from blame: “Homosexuality has done incredible devastation to this church but you listen to gay activists and it’s like they don’t even acknowledge that, it’s so bizarre; homosexual activists never take responsibility for their own behavior and the repercussions from it.”

Rios added that gay people won’t take responsibility for the Catholic Church’s abuse scandal because they are “very narcissistic.”

When discussing recent vandalism at the National Cathedral, LaBarbera said that the Episcopal congregation was already “desecrated” by its support of gay rights.

“You could say that the Cathedral was desecrated by vandalism but I think that the Cathedral has already been desecrated by homosexual activism and sexual immorality,” LaBarbera told Rios, who asserted that the vandalism at the Lincoln Memorial was a “metaphor” for America’s decline.

Stemberger: 'Loud and Proud Nonsense' Will 'Absolutely Not Be Tolerated' In New Anti-Gay Scouts

John Stemberger appeared on Peter LaBarbera’s show Americans For Truth About Homosexuality Radio Hour yesterday to promote his new alternative to the Boy Scouts. Stemberger left the Boy Scouts of America after it voted to lift its ban on openly gay youth, and in a press conference announced that “young men who have same-sex attractions will be permitted into the organization, though they will not be allowed to push a gay agenda or flaunt their sexual orientation. I think that there's a real difference between someone who has a same-sex attraction and someone who identifies with the gay political movement.”

Seeing that the breakaway group left solely over the issue of homosexuality, Stemberger’s claim that only “someone who identifies with the gay political movement” will be barred from his group may seem perplexing.

But that is until you realize that Stemberger actually believes that anyone who is openly gay and not suppressing or trying to change his sexual orientation is part of the sinister gay agenda.

As he explained to LaBarbera, “if there is a young man who we find out or confesses to a leader, in the context that these are Christian men, that they have a same-sex attraction, we will deal with that as a ministry issue. We will point them to the scripture, point them to the standard of our membership oath and to the scripture and to help them through that.”

“However, we will not tolerate under any circumstances any kind of flaunting, any kind of outward loud and proud nonsense, all of that that encompasses gay activism, the promotion of the gay agenda, will absolutely not be tolerated in the program,” Stemberger said. “That’s a huge difference because the BSA will have that, that’s exactly what they are inviting when they allow open and avowed [gay] youth.”

A Very Anti-Gay Fourth of July

Peter LaBarbara invites you to celebrate Independence Day this year by sending a donation to his anti-gay group Americans For Truth About Homosexuality.

In an email to members today, LaBarbera warns that America “is headed for tyranny” if “Big Gay Inc.” gets its way.

“As we contemplate our unique American liberties and blessings this July 4th -- and their potential to be eroded or eliminated in the name of ‘gay tolerance’ -- please consider giving to AFTAH to help us in our Truth-telling mission,” LaBarbera writes, warning, “The Big Lie of ‘gay rights as civil rights’ has taken hold in America's power centers, including, tragically, our Supreme Court.”

DEAR AFTAH READER,

As we contemplate our unique American liberties and blessings this July 4th -- and their potential to be eroded or eliminated in the name of "gay tolerance" -- please consider giving to AFTAH to help us in our Truth-telling mission. Donate online HERE (or click blue button at right) -- or send a gift by mail of $100, $50, $25 or whatever you can give to: AFTAH, PO Box 5522, Naperville, IL 60567-5522.

Americans For Truth fearlessly proclaims the hard facts about homosexualism -- including some that even many "conservatives" are reluctant to hear -- because we believe in telling it like it is. Now more than ever, AFTAH's role is critical -- because the Big Lie of "gay rights as civil rights" has taken hold in America's power centers, including, tragically, our Supreme Court (see articles below).

We don't have a fraction of the money of Big Gay Inc., and we're not even good at asking for it -- but your gifts to AFTAH go a long way in confronting "gay power," and they are a blessing to us. By our mere existence, AFTAH inspires countless hundreds of thousands of Americans (and people all over the world) NEVER to capitulate to the lies of the Homosexual/Transgender Lobby and its media cheerleaders. The pro-LGBT Left smears us as a "hate group," but if that were true, then God Himself is a "hateful bigot"! No, defending common sense and truth and exposing evil is not "hate" -- but for those who "hate the truth," we are a threat that must be extinguished!

A moral America is a free America, but an America that embraces sexual immorality and extreme gender confusion -- as "civil rights" -- is headed for tyranny. In these perilous times in which "good is evil and evil, good" (Isaiah 5:20), please help AFTAH stand as a brave and honest voice in a darkened culture. Thank you and God bless.

LaBarbera Reacts to DOMA Ruling: 'Craven' Kennedy 'Sold out Almighty God for a Place in the Gay Hall of Fame'

Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality apparently had to spend quite some time stewing over the Supreme Court’s decision striking down the key provision of the Defense of Marriage Act, finally coming out today with a press release slamming the decision. The high court’s decision, LaBarbera writes, “continues America’s godless trajectory toward sexual and gender chaos” and helps to make us “a Profane Nation at war with our own heritage.”

He saves his special vitriol for Justice Anthony Kennedy, author of the DOMA opinion, whom he predicts “will go down in history as one more craven elitist who sold out Almighty God for a place in the Gay Hall of Fame.”

Yesterday’s decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court striking down Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and effectively invalidating Californians’ vote to preserve marriage as between a man and a woman — continues America’s godless trajectory toward sexual and gender chaos.  We have become a Profane Nation at war with our own heritage and the Judeo-Christian moral values that helped make us great.

Healthy societies discriminate against sexually immoral behavior: homosexuality, sex outside marriage, pornography, incest, etc. This benefits children and adults by using the law to reinforce stable moral boundaries and steer citizens away from destructive (sinful) behaviors. So it was stunning to read the majority decision by Justice Anthony Kennedy – a Reagan appointee – overturning DOMA’s pro-natural-marriage provision in the name of the children.

Kennedy surely has earned his future laudatory obit in the New York Times for capitulating to “gay” activist ideology — but among clear-thinking Americans who still know right from wrong he will go down in history as one more craven elitist who sold out Almighty God for a place in the Gay Hall of Fame.

The Kennedy majority’s legal insanity is what emerges from an Isaiah 5:20 culture (evil is good and good evil) that puts deviant sexual identities on a pedestal, to be celebrated as protected “civil rights.” The LGBT Pandora’s Box has been flung open, and there will be much more folly and destruction to follow — including the public policy madness of establishing “gender identity” (read: extreme gender confusion) as a parallel “civil right.”

At least the Supreme Court did not create a national “right” to homosexual “marriage.” But we must be vigilant, as future LGBT litigation, coupled with the appalling self-righteousness of Kennedy’s liberal court majority, will combine to make this the next goal of the judicial supremacists.

LaBarbera also discussed the DOMA decision on VCY America’s Crosstalk yesterday. He attacked President Obama’s statement praising the Supreme Court’s decision, calling it an example of “radical egalitarianism,” and warned that marriage equality will now be “foisted” upon children which is “not good for their hearts and souls.”

The other thing that strikes me, Jim, is the radical egalitarianism of that statement. You know, this idea of homosexual love, homosexual unions are equal to marital unions, it’s not all equal. A marriage between a man and a woman produces children, it’s the very foundation of human civilization. And the idea that two men or two women is somehow ‘equal’ to that is a liberal falsehood. And I’m worried that it’s going to be foisted by necessity now upon children, especially in the states that have so-called homosexual marriage, they will be taught that same-sex so-called marriage is equal to the real thing, and that’s not good for their hearts and souls.
 

LaBarbera: Homosexuality a 'Masculinity Deficit,' a 'Weird Sin'

Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality visited the Janet Mefferd show on Tuesday to discuss “ex-gay” ministry Exodus International’s decision to shut its doors and apologize to the gay community. LaBarbera, unsurprisingly, was none too pleased with Exodus’ reversal. He told Mefferd the story of an “ex-gay” acquaintance, Andrew Franklin, who helped him understand that homosexuality is merely a curable “masculinity deficit.”  He added that people react to homosexuality differently than other “sins” because it “is just a weird sin, so it’s different.”

LaBarbera: The Lord worked in his life, he’s acquiring, you know, masculinity. I think the issue that really hit me, Janet, was, this is really, homosexuality is a masculinity deficit. It’s an issue of masculinity for these guys.

Mefferd: Interesting. And yet, you hear from the other side all the time that people like Andrew Franklin don’t exist. I mean, Wayne Besen has made a whole career on the ex-gay movement as, you know, a misnomer, it doesn’t exist and it’s a big lie.

LaBarbera: Well, they exist. And God is working in their lives just as God works in the lives of all of us, helps us overcome our sin. And I think this is just a weird sin, so it’s different. And that’s why I think people, they want to cop out and say, ‘Oh, they’re born gay, just leave them alone.’
 

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